The SFFaudio Podcast #903 – READALONG: For Us, The Living by Robert A. Heinlein

Jesse and J. Daniel Sawyer talk about For Us, The Living by Robert A. Heinlein

Talked about on today’s show:
1938/39, first fiction, before Lifeline, highschool, Robert E. Howard’s juvenalia, 14 years old, terrible and awesome, natural writers, those who don’t force it, self-confession, the natural writers, tipping their hand all the time, Robert E. Howard later on, stupider and funnier, who is this kid, he sounds like Dan Sawyer, fine a writer they like, read more of that, Heinlein’s most popular juvenile, Have Space Suit Will Travel, a capstone, an epitome of the whole series, Farmer In The Sky, an excellent novel, Time For The Stars, the central characters are so horrible, horrible people, 30 years ago, Between Planets, a little bit like Podkayne Of Mars, count it as, the same literary form, the same basic structure, Starship Troopers, a transitional book, suit the new market, to break the contract, walk it across the street, literary genre is more philosophical dialogue, later books, his preferred form is the philosophical dialogue, main weakness, surprised a couple of times, predict every scene, fresh details, 23 years ago, getting old, lear a few things between books, having known when Heinlein was alive and reading, Heinlein-like novels, Annette Kurtis Clause, a cat a girl and a spaceship, she liked Heinlein, The Unincorporated Man, the sequels, The Unincorporated Woman?, triple or double the length, the premise, a really interesting premise, 2008, technically possible that they read this, who isn’t?, alot of podcast, insights, supergenius, transgenderism is always hidden, why is he like this, why?, the same reason, Stranger In A Strange Land, Starship Troopers, as a book, so much shorter, a good length, at least twelve, maybe seventeen, more plot, less rawness, everyone’s main problem with Heinlein, Perry, The Last Days Of Socrates, the strawmen there, well dressed strawmen, more distance, self-satisfied, echo, do a show by myself, Heinlein is too fuckin smart, it makes him isolated, smart at the typewriter, the result of his arguments with other very smart people, Sturgeon, Goddard, Asimov, Jack Parsons, resentful and hectoring, a background, Secrets Of The Heinlein Epic, the occult background, a Thelemite, the rocket guy, figuring out how to make rocketry work, Scientology, gnosticism, a weird direction, through his second wife, the Philip K. Dick story, a foot in that world, a rationalist, not a materialist, all of these worlds, a grand synethsis, modernity had broken culture, Sixth Column, just right after WWII?, the one book he says he regrets, a short story that John Campbell, racism, yellow peril is awesome, The Unpleasant Profession Of Jonathan Hoag, The Number Of The Beast is a grimoire, one thing on top, a whole other thing going on underneath, how to write, in the guise of a really bad novel, The Pursuit Of The Pankera, an adventure story, a nostalgic revisit of The Puppet Masters, a throwback, really readable, a seperate book, rights clearances, that’s crazy, he was dying when he wrote it, license fees, LibriVox, Heinlein, Furure Fantasia, first science fiction somethings, technically his first fiction, this had never been seen before, the guy who tracked it down, lost, naval academy buddy, Leon Stover, sitting the Heinlein archives in four different peices, more from good writers, new Michael Crichton novel, wasn’t published during his lifetime, raw, scraps of notes, James Patterson, a collab with, Vesuvius, Eruption, based on something, the real guy, somebody vibing with Heinlein, the best hoax ever, everything is in there too, nudity, the transgenderism, more and more later, whatever kink thing, Socrates, The Symposium, as a digression, Margaret St. Clair, a few novels, her shor stories, Weird Tales, wrote up into the 60s at least, she was a witch, weird stuff, in the same region, his letters, regress yourself to an ancient roman, weird stuff explainable by the weird personalities, what this book is, News From Nowhere, by William Morris, a utopian novel, William Guest, the socialist league, very Looking Backward by Edward Bellamy, an epoch of rest, the economics, philosophy, no authority, no marriage or divorce, people find pleasure in nature, pleasure in their work, engenders between people, socialism will entail, art life and work, there is a plot, guy has a car crash wakes up, fur coat, nude underneath, a future society, diagonsed as being a guy, punches her old boyfriend, sent for therapy, san fransisco for a minute, a rehab center, tour a rocket factory, winds up in a threesome, much longer stranger, circumnavigating the moon trip, doing Requiem before Requiem, Heinlein got his wish, Door Into Summer, Beyond The Horizon, something from Star Beast, the seeds for everything, mining this book, The Roads Must Roll, the premise for the tech, no strike, the rolling sidewalks are called the ways, Door Into Summer, the rolling roads are in The Door Into Summer, a little bit of Friday in there, so useful, so hepful, Costco, first 10 books for 20 bucks, 2 volumes of Heinlein juveniles in a slipcase, kids interested in reading, how good Harry Potter or Katniss Everdeen, more of the same everytime, different everytime, get kids into reading, when you’re a kid you have to have something in hand, nothing to hand neices and nephews, wish-fulfilment bullshit, he does Tom Swift, quanit and handy, making sandwiches, missing wills, nosy neighbours, not for boys, confident in your manhood, Starman Jones, the most non-memorable book of the whole series and its awesome, orphans, orphan mentality, a stepmom and a new stepdad, homeless bum, very 1930s very 2026y book, guilds, the system is rigged against us, cheating your way into success and meaning is helpful, keeping your soul, how Heinlein got into the naval academy, state senator, went and camped out, impressed or annoyed him to death, a lot of competition, the scions of wealthy houses, a poor kid from the ozarks, look at old magazines, from 1912 up to the 1930s, all the rich people magazines are putting your kid into summer school or military school, Robert W. Chambers, Hastur, The King In Yellow, The Repairer Of Reputations, America’s imperial future, feels like the 2020s, suicide booths, Aleistair Croley and William Morris, The Marching Morons by C.M. Kornbluth, very tounge in cheek, Idiocracy, the same idea, the movie version, an army experiment, a future that’s different, that formula with Looking Backward, The Sleeper Wakes, The Door Into Summer, Rip Van Winkle, not a science fiction story, how funny America is, my how things are changed, everybody’s Heinlein, sitting around the pool, the beautiful naked lady, the slightly fatter naked lady, Jubal Harshaw, his physique, a different experience reading Stranger now, a lot more about the personalities, who all these people are, roman a’clef, an afterword, a special edition, kickstarter backers, general release, Glory Road, adult juveniles, a distinct literary form vs. a target audience, to tell an adult story, drank from the well and I was full, water brother, grokked it well, quite an experience, a scene right in the middle of the book, Rodin’s sculpture of the caryatids, about that scene in the center, the sculpure gallery, the decoder ring for the whole thing, audiobook, moved out into the wilderness, recording studio, August, recording a lot, writing Secrets Of The Heinlein Epic, the juveniles and a few others, distinct in literary history, publicity, keep reading Heinlein’s later works, obviously garbage, derrangement syndrome, Our Opinions Are Correct, this is incoherent, you’re mad at someone who’s dead, mentally model people, there isn’t a little homunculus in your head, that scene from Men In Black, a whole starship full of forces and actors and dicipline, constantly being overriden, explaining their weird behavior, a very diciplined crew, undisciplined crews, driving off the road and getting divorces, what have you, the art of agency, sort your drives out and point them in the same direction, Marvin Minsky, I read every Heinlein, “other better writers”, want to say newer authors, John Scalzi, we don’t need book 2, book 4, Joe Haldeman’s Forever War, you can’t have Orson Scott Card, plays nice, using his blog to promote their books, forbidden, I read Heinlein, I sold all my Heinlein, for Lovecraft, turning over in his graves, fact masquerading as taste, a disservice to everybody invovled, an echo chamber sort of thing, he is his own best echo chamber, at his worst, I Will Fear No Evil, a super-cool book, in terms of literary value, how Heinlein worked as a person and author, Ginny had to pay the hospital bills, Lurton Blassinggame, shortened it, augmented it or retooled it, some really interesting ideas, similar to this book in a way, easy to miss, finding out, newspaper reports of how he died, a fun little scene, still newspapers and stuff, doing great for 1939, the internet from Friday, human invovled search engines, ai tokens, the woman at the beach, her name was Diana, this is all a dream of the guying on the beach, Glory Road, psychotic break, a unique quality of its own, all of them start with death, in most of his books after Stranger, a repeating pattern, a very interesting road, Heinlein was big into reading ancient mythology, an ancient afterlife myth, another aspect of this book, mention a lot, had this been published in 1940 or 1939, a huge hit or immediately dismissed, Ayn Rand, the same thought, she gets way too much fuckin attention in the 20th century, The Fountainhead, a very robotic book, Anthem, they’re not humans, they’re robotoids, mythological abstractions, sadder, university, very excited about college and university, economics, micro and macro, the ideas more interestin than the calculations, of course he’s right, he does another thing he’s really good at, Farmer In the Sky, food, breakfast, strawberries, flapjacks, the long list of enjoyable food, the sensous pleasure, if this was 1939, a Murad!, not a lot of penetration, milk glands, the female form, a nudsit, another Margaret St. Clair connection, a sacramental aspect, occultism, the gnostic and hermetic went their seperate ways, anti-body, hateful of the natural world, Sam Altman, destroy humanity and replace it with the machine god, underlying Marxism, very body embracing, the physical body as the contact point between the temporal and eternal universe, of that tradition, anarcho primitivists, a good cup a coffee, pet a dog, be chased by a goose, his analyis, description of the game, a “master”, the alternate rules at the end, something homeschoolers should be doing, the history of the 20th century would be different, a bold claim, people are highly motivated by ideas, the whole 20th century is explainable, incredibly popular with dentists, the New Deal, look at the economics, projected into the future past us, he predicted UBI, Wisconsin a fair amount, this is not a novel in the normal sense, an educational tract disguised as a novel, the Vril book, The Coming Race by Edward Bulwyer Lytton, triumph of the human spirit, big lady positive, power rods, symbolic, the bullion called Bovril, it was huge, pre-WWI Germany, huge popularity, we are becoming, lay a lot of the histy of the world at the feet of Marx and Engels, the end of the draft, the Moon mission, the draft was ended by Milton Friedman, hilarious and crazy, a friend born in 1946, my favourite billionaire likes rockets, he’s interested in things I’m interested in, he’s interested in satellites, sending my girlfriend, D.D. Harriman, Space X, the books are incredibly powerful, people model their lives on characters in books and television, a citation for that, even the stupidest people, Paul Krugmann, wanted to be the foundation character, Hari Seldon, Peter Turchin, fail upward, they didn’t read the book, they read the ai summary of the book, Al Qaeda, a parallel evolution, a big science fan, 100191, numeralogy arguments, the romans not having arabic numerals, not having punctuation, internal signaling, the USS Cole, personal experience, a learn to read book, 1840 version of Chicken Little, a leaf falls on her tail, runs to tell her mother, out let us run, Duck Luck, Fox Lox, in to my den where we will be safe, the end of the world story, Paradise, 2012 (2009), Roland Emmerich, a really funny comedy, it’s a comedy!, it’s very funny, When Worlds Collide, a retelling of Noah’s ark and the rebirth of the world, all the ladies, we’ll be safe from the falling of the sky, ate em all up, end of story, a very valuable and resonant story, are you the fox?, seeing it with my ears, questioning my senses, what if you’re wrong, when gets things a little bit too pay, cringe, a refrain in the book, his assembly campaign, reading through it, stops and has the exponents of the great future, it serves our needs, it’s not the perfect system, when Lazarus Long gets involved, history doesn’t have an end state, a remarkable individual, George O. Smith novel, Hellflower, scanned it up, find the magazine art, Virgil Finlay, analogy for poppies or heroin, the drug running sort of stuff, “indespensible”, “other better writers have taken up Heinlein’s torch”, writers who are less important to read, for your self, it’s super fucking interesting and compelling, don’t worry about spoilers, how it explores the ideas, there’s never been a book where he half-asses, goes in with both feet, he’s just a man, he didn’t agree with himself, a Wikipedia entry for BRIC shares, cleaning up shelves, what is this?, some sort of investment thing, they were trying to do what Heinlein’s trying to do, the words “social credit”, not the same as the chinese system, the fun part, the authors: Heinlein, Orwell, Aldous Huxley, J.R.R. Tolkien, C.S. Lewis, Julian Huxley, The Tissue Culture King, a Wakanda story, a hidden african country, an african native doing some sort of obesicanece ritual, a tissue culture, he’s culturing tissue, they took the king, spreading him around, for mind control, a telepathy thing, a metal helmet, mind-controlled, 1911 area, republished in Amazing, simultaneously published, fuckn weird Guy, T.H. Huxley, H.G. Wells, strange fuckin interesting guy, way into nudity for my personal hanging around, put on a robe once in a while, bro, very big into hospitality, his relationship with Philip K. Dick, a defense of Heinelin, the funniest man ever, broken and hilarious, hitting on everybody, the two most different kind of guys, courtly and knightly, awkward and lusty and sweaty, the mad monk of science fiction, the most influential authors of the 20th century, top down vs. bottom up, literary technique, evolved, technically better writers, also into social credit, one foot in today and one foot out of time, hard to find in any writer, fully of the moment, the fashionable frame, an example, W.R. Bennett, W.A.C. Bennett, the socialist party, currently in power, they were running as “social credit” (socreds), in power in Alberta, they can’t do anything because they’re provinical, they can’t issue money, they eventually become a conservative party, what his dad did, 1871, a very different history, Kamchatka, last colonized, wild, a whole bunch of social construction, from a free enterprise party, those two parties are competing for the attention of British Columbian voters, that’s what Saudi Arabia has done, Saudi Arabia, Norway, taken the extra steps, how fuckedd things up with ai, human flourishing, if this book had been published in 1939, sunk and lost forever, really popular, politicians generally don’t know anything, socializing and getting promoted because of his midwit status, a foothold, defensible, an a b test, in this version of reality, coming late as it does, almost nobody reads at all, same time zone, we used to be neighbours, Vancouver Island, norther part of North America, the Philip K. Dick bay area, nude beach, Heinlein’s old house, cops enforcing nobody on the beach after sunset, they might hurt themselves, the stairs aren’t lit, bring a flashlight, we are run by idiots who didn’t read no fuckin books, British Columbia, west coast time, they decided to do away with daylight savings time, until California acted, they’re so fuckin dysfunctional, the newest, other than Alaska and Tasmania, not as fully corrupt the farther you go back, the more currupt it is, the corruption scandals in the birth of Canada, California was born corrupt, the corruption counterbalanced, we just want to be honest, craziness, 2nd premeier of British Columbia was Amour De Cosmos, tail end of the 19th century, doukhobourss, nudist pacificsts, the tsar’s military, beaten by the cops for being nudist pacificst, pederasts, aristoi, the elites, Socrates and Plato, shorty flatty, a wrestler, UFC guys, but gay sort of but not really, he’s got a wife, that traitor has a sexy body, send the girls out, women were inherited polluting, not out about it, bronze age pervert, a twitter person, a philosopher, a proper philosophy book, bulgarian, Claremont Institute, selective breeding, born in 1980, a weird combination of vitalism and ancient greek homo-eroticism and liberalism, stimulating, books look nice on the shelf, City Of Endless Night by Milo Hastings, gazebo, a book on chicken breeding, one of the William Hope Hodgson set, Bernarr McFadden, a magazine publisher and body builder, super against vaccines, naming his children with the letter b, faking his numbers, an invasion of the United States by the Japanese right after WWI, an under ground proto-nazi civilization, chemical fertilizer food, refused to surrender, just happens to speak German, a lot like this book but as a dystopia, a royalty breeding level, really weird, synthetic creation of fertilizer, synthetic petroleoum, drugs, different levels of the society, where the workers arent, hedonism and breeding all day, Stanley Kubrick, Brave New World, we’re there, the Fabians, Coventry, the reserve system, two more books, more walking around, If This Goes On, a naval aviator, ballistics guy, taking things apart and putting things together, not replaceable, fun and funny, another different thing, Down From Ten, Hadrian’s Flight, a podcast version, narrating things by other people, Suave Rob series, satire comedy series, surfs supernovas, short story collections, southern gothic horror, Time Of The Twins, Kyrnn, Time For The Stars, the girl one, Podkayne Of Mars, visit Heinlein, admire but don’t enjoy, horrible people, horribly broken people, an unpleasant read, night owl, west coast, easier to get up earlier, private tutor, professor obeisance to a lot of things, political parties, I like reading more than one author, a human religion, one of those ones, doctrinaire stuff, all models break down, enough power, pry the Heinlein estate out of their hands, literary agency, not being very aggressive, how many such cases, try and find a book of his on the shelf, Clifford D. Simak’s estate, way better than Clarke, a power in short stories, The Star, about a jesuit priest coming back from a solar system, the short stories were hard to find, The Science Fiction Hall Of Fame, The Nine Billion Names Of God, a classic of science fiction, Olaf Stapledon novels, translated into short stories, orbits and orbital mechanics, The Haunted Spacesuit, the ship’s cat is having kittens inside the spacesuit, he has power, Fredric Brown, What Mad Universe, it’s very good, it’s very funny, very meta, John W. Campbell style editor, a bunch of ribbons, an alternate dimensions, a comedy, in the body of another person, a comedy of customs, a science fiction universe, science fiction is out and westerns are in, recycle other people’s stories, rocket people, beautiful ladies with brass bra bikinis, a cover of Startling Stories, supermeta, an excellent writer, inspired Lawrence Block, the last Burglar book, The Burglar Who Met Fredric Brown, The Screaming Mimi, the writer’s writer, pal around with, admire his writing, see you on twitter, chicken pictures, birds and dogs, no pigs yet, dogs, gooses, turkeys, assholes, eating her pigs, couple geese, tons of chickens, cattle are way less work than chickens, beef, delicious, acreage, goats, straight to cattle, water is difficult, having water delivered, gazebo, the cloth walls come down, a tent cabin in Yosemite, negative 40, 70 or about 20, 32 is zero, grok it, 98 or 32, get those numbers wrong, the freezing point water, the wrong altitude, sea level, boiling point of seawater, now we have to be French about it, Ostreich, little bits of history, okay whatever, Austria’s greatest cultural achievement that Hitler was German and Beethoven was Austrian, the guy always comes from the periphery, Stalin’s from george, Lincoln’s from Illinois, encapsulates the hate, the real life Hari Seldon, grand unified theory, elite overproduction, he needed to be in this conversation in this book, counter elite, corrupt clique of the imperial corps, find a parade and march in front of it, the excellent discussion.

Posted by Jesse Willis

The SFFaudio Podcast #902 – READALONG: Hellflower by George O. Smith

Jesse and Scott talk about Hellflower by George O. Smith

Talked about on today’s show:
George O. Smith, George H. Smith, style wise, Venus Equilateral series, 1942 – 1947, Startling Stories, 1952/1953, a little like something from the 70s, old fashioned, the other drugs that are in it, a misimpression from right early on, Farradyne came to the point, who do you want killed?, dumped the Semiramide into the bog, the Titanic, a book about drugs, on the lookout for drugs, rotgut, Venus, a mushroom farmer, the good stuff, White Star Trail?, the description, a godsend, the flavour of fine scotch whiskey, the pure quill, the stylized language, high test liquor, goes to a bar and orders it, synthehol, fake beer, rye whiskey, other drugs, some toxin, the name of his boat, his ship, a person, a historical person, what do you think of this book?, mixed feelings, alien race, Simak, infiltrate, a book about drugs, con-notate, drug touches, the central idea of the book, cynical, history, the SAND, a cut-out, gets his license back, a Lancaster-81, 1981? 2081?, 3 movies with the exact same plot, The Stranglers Of Bombay, Thugees, East India Company vs. the Thugees, a Hong Kong one, Christopher Lee, the British occupation of Hong Kong, Live And Let Die, Caribbean Island nation, opium pushing, tongs and thugees are the bad guys, pushing opium, spread the blame, the hellflower pushers, after a certain point, aliens and interstellar travel, workmanlike, beautiful flowers and science fiction, influenced by this?, All Flesh Is Grass, whenEric S. Rabkin says let’s do a show on food, bad theory, Virgil Finlay is so great at drawing flowers, excellent at it, let the man work at what he’s good at, a problem with the book, a problem with our perception, were men affected by hellflowers, not explicitly enough pushed, it’s not really stated, one way that this works, how this works, a good thing that he didn’t tell us, marijuana, cocaine, coffee, licorice, propaganda, so tasty, so delicious, you don’t give babies coffee generally (although in Costa Rica), nicotine, alcohol, cannabis, what is the effect of it if you’ve never had it, apologizing for the book, like it more than I should, space adventure stuff, ships in space, like Heinlein, zippin around, avoid the defenses of earth and the attacks from the aliens, cartoon miniseries, a lot of action, cool locations, at one point they land at the bottom of Lake Michigan, the submarine comes, a Han Solo without Chewbacca but with more Heinlein physics, a lot like Rocketship Galileo, ftl around the solar system, really cool, glued, fun, the truck drivers, tying people up, how the first Indiana Jones movie works, Raiders Of The Lost Ark, an airplane, a snake, lots of action, because it is awesome, a serial, it feels like a serial, out of Planet Stories, solar system based, several planets, Heinleinesque, spacers, run cargo around, that’s what our guy is, Mercury to Pluto, WWII bomber, overstuffed with aircraft, Brazil please buy an aircraft carrier, conned Canada into buying two aircraft carriers, all the WWII pilots, skills that nobody needed, cargo aircraft for cheap, [DC-3s], ex-military cargo aircraft, quite liked that feel, I like science fiction, reputation is damaged, a womanizer, somewhat aliens, related to humans somehow, Star Trek shapeshifters, human emotions, why they don’t all look like Hortas, recessive voice thing, his first clue, dashed off, it’s good, enjoy science fiction and then have favourites, a dose of things we’ve been missing, four gravities, she can’t stand up, the goodreads reviews, the politics of the gender stuff, strong reactions?, two main women, the hellflower addict who rejects him, the sister of the guy who died, blackmailing him, Carolyn, a strong woman a part of a crime family on Mercury, not a human crime family, crack cocaine, the evil cartels, infiltrate the evil cartels, setup a guy to infiltrate it, you can’t infiltrate, more operators, betraying his own people, in retrospect, so nice, speculates, what could motivate a person, he doesn’t dwell on the horrors philosophically, is it okay to push drugs, not cool, he thinks about that a bit, the dynamics, Carolyn had a flower in her hair, threw it in the trash, he wanted her to be sober, I prefer sobriety, feelings created by this chemical, 20th and 21st century society, Spanish Fly, mythical stuff, date rape drugs, Fat Albert, Bill Cosby, a drug that makes women want to have sex with you, so they can’t defend themselves, an effect that cigarettes have on people, bring you closer, alcohol, lowers inhibitions, an ex-smoker, conventions, the people who are out there, artists out there, deeper conversations, the most important part of it, coffee has replaced that, let’s go have coffee, tea or matcha, it’s basically candy at this point, the whole point of the phrase, let’s spend time together, cigarettes is a need, two different levels, the addiction to cigarettes, we see it in movies, hey sailor got a light, smoke in the classroom, when it is illicit, you’re out there to smoke, you ask them for a light, the social introduction, Victorian style dramas, introduced, where’s your calling card, introduced to society, we only are mutually introduced, your way of self-introducing, all social-strata, a keen observer, a light in their own pocket, they are need of human to human interaction, marijuana, social, smoking pot alone, used to be very very social, you share it, you pass the joint around, drinking alone, out with folks, think about drugs all the time, what’s it purpose, it’s to get the people addicted to keep them down, cannabis keeps people from rebelling, heroin, hooked on that, a bunch of purposes, opiates are used in medicine all day long, people don’t like pain, mental pain, bad news on the telephone, alcohol jar, a smoke, externalizing the internal when it is performative like that, a real phenomena within the human being, in folktales nobody every says I love you they just give you food, the silly premise, sexually irrepressed, the wacky tacbbacy, the same for opium, an invasion, the East India pushing opium into China, extract from China, cartoonish in this book, take over the human solar sytem, the Hudson’s Bay Company, the Dutch East India Company, replace Americans with Japanese, lebensraum, ethnically cleanse the area, the book doesn’t quite work on that level of a historical analogy, an action adventure, those James Bond movies, how silly they are, he was talking about real people, Doctor No, a throwback to Fu Manchu, a Yellow Peril, the Fu-Manchu books, how drugs influence people, the appreciation of beauty, coming in from economic warfare, the flower connection, fields of purple flowers, The Screwfly Solution by James Tiptree, Jr., the editorial introduction, May 1952 publication, SPACE OPERA, science fiction at it’s best, science fiction’s greatest asset, space and time and immensity, it’s the ideas, space doesn’t have to be in it, time and immensity, the immensity of the solar system, the immensity of the galaxy, transitioned to another solar system, looking out the bubble, the different constellations, that’s really good stuff, real, stuff happening, the most colour and movement, subplot, purely cerebral story, a thing of beauty and joy forever, no blonde priestesses, he’s selling this book to us, paying my ten cents, looking down my nose at spaceopera, what’s being written today, stuff happening, science fiction is the setting in which stuff happens, the rightful queen, the unrightful queen, favourite stuff, Tau Zero by Poul Anderson, Hyperion, Dune, another drug book, is this a stuff happening book?, a little more than that, well-paced, this book is better than it appears to be, the dedication, one of Campbell’s ex-wives, may that’s his wife, used to be Campbell’s wife, fun to find someone new, my god the sparks!, I just can’t believe how sparky this is, Simak without as much poetry, without as much meditation, philosophical thinking, a collection of stories, The Worlds Of George O., Highways In Hiding.

Hellflower by George O. Smith PYRAMID

Posted by Jesse Willis

The SFFaudio Podcast #901 – AUDIOBOOK: Hellflower by George O. Smith

The SFFaudio Podcast #901 – Hellflower by George O. Smith, read by Ben Tucker.

Hellflower was first published in Startling Stories, May 1952.

This UNABRIDGED AUDIOBOOK (6 hours 13 minutes) comes to us courtesy of LibriVox.org.

The next SFFaudio Podcast will feature our discussion of it!

Startling Stories - Hellflower

Startling Stories - Hellflower

Startling Stories - Hellflower

Posted by Jesse Willis

The SFFaudio Podcast #900 – READALONG: Jurassic Park by Michael Crichton

Jesse and Alex (Pulpcovers) talk about Jurassic Park by Michael Crichton

Talked about on today’s show:
read all the Crichtons, middle school, volunteered at a library, everything else available, the John Langes, paperbacks, the 10th Michael Crichtons, theoretically a John Lange novel, a Murder In Hollywood, the pirate sites, don’t trust the estates, a better writer, Timeline is mid-1990s, several revelations, hey mom, how you doin?, science, biology, animals, a bad choice, doctors don’t actually have good jobs, mechanics (essentially), a human being, you can’t just buy a new car, how doctors are, horrible people if they think their magic powers are useful, patients vs. objects to be experimented on, genetics, amphibians, snakes, turtles, parrots, he wrote a screenplay, Westworld, they’re all the same subject: theme parks, the evil master plan, the whole purpose of it was for a theme park, the company is gonna make a theme park, exploit this stuff, telling some investors, a little vague, not as good a book, this new technology is going to change the world, genetics, make nuclear look like nothing, the quantum realm, a good movie, not to fanboy over the most popular thing, The Andromeda Strain, mainstream books, Michael Crichton doesn’t come out of the science fiction ghetto, technothriller, weird science fiction guys, don’t worry, Margaret Atwood, marketing purposes, fight against that, he didn’t read Astounding, Larry Niven, the classics, a parallel evolution, born in the 1940s, 50s and 60s wise, he tells us, he loved Conan Doyle, The Lost World, kinda pulpy, Ian Malcolm as his Sherlock Holmes, he comes back, they thought I was dead for a while, his only sequel, The Terminal Man is his Frankenstein, the story of the guy who had a tin-foil, literally gave him foil, insane asylum, turned it into a thriller, The Andromeda Strain is The War Of The Worlds, in an interview somewhere, a neat twist, an inversion, a baby and a sterno drinker, Congo we could argue that it’s King Solomon’s Mines, A Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur’s Court, getting all the classics, an Ian Fleming one, a James Bond one, doing his best to tip his hand, a lost nuke story, Thunderball, Grave Descend, really good, get crackin on these things, pirate books, parallel evolution, axes to grind, the theme parking of reality, what tattoo it was, Robert Picardo, emergency medical hologram on some lady’s arm, liked Star Trek Voyager, the worst of the best ones, pathetic and sad, Disney adults, bought out, Larry Ellison’s son, the phrase is the important part, they have rides and stuff, maybe Universal Studios, aging out of it, a whole Stars Wars theme park, a class of Star Wars adults, a new Punisher special, Marvel adults, some patheticness in our society now, a lot more in Westworld, Westworld is a great novel, the mystery box problem, such a thing, horrible writing, one of the things that killed the new Lord Of The Rings show, J.J. Abrams, just tell the story, a weird artificial mystery, writing the novel chapter by chapter, no idea where the story is going, cohesive idea, a lot of speeches in this book, the Jeff Goldblum performance, Michael Crichton’s voice, he’s smart, had to compare the movie to the book, what the book was doing, might as well do it now, almost a perfect movie, in relief to the book, the ideas in the book, the differences between them, Hammond is the bad guy in the book, the same kind of bad guy as we see in Timeline, obsessed assholish ceo, an explicit liar, the flea circus, dream of entertaining children, he brought the kids for a specific purpose, approval more likely, “spared no expense”, sitting at the end with the ice cream, his death in the book is transfered to the death to the bad guy from Seinfeld, Nedry, who the traitor is, intro scene on the beach, all the terrible personality traits, the villain of the movie vs. the villain of the book, motivation, Drug Of Choice, a book, a phrase, during covid, injections, not ivermectin, not hydroxychloroquine, buy my own island, the trigger for everything goes wrong, eaten, in the sequel movie, nibbled to death, Peter Stormier, stuck in a bunch of other movies, the family on the beach, Jurassic World, parents getting divorced, the aviary dorm, the movie follows closely, Eric S. Rabkin, had a hand in the script, a Hollywood movie director, enough juice, a Spielberg movie, how to make money, to be filmed, wanted to make a movie with Sean Connery, the opening of Timeline and the opening of this are quite similar, a road trip, Mexico and Costa Rica, a huge glaring flaw, Costa Rica doesn’t have an army, a civilian military, Hammond and Muldoon, heavy armament, rocket launchers, SPAS-12, tase the dinosaurs or rocket launcher, a solid 50 caliber, Ray Bradbury, Fritz Leiber, this is a trope in science fiction magazines, James Patrick Kelly, people go back in time and hunt dinosaurs, recreating that, definitely cool, some little slippage, dispense with it, how many raptors are left, after the kids are switched, why is the movie so good?, the best scene in the movie, the t-rex, the banner falls down, when dinosaurs ruled the earth, something to put in your trailer, when Steven Spielberg dies, so visuals, pure Spielberg, they’re in the helicopter, the stand-in for Crichton, love interests in the movie, the kids are in there too, heading back to the mainland, are those supposed to be dinosaurs, the idea of the book and of the movie, colourful birds, a symbolic hint as to what’s going on, if there is a message of the book, what dinosaurs are like, probably wrong, popularized The Structure Of Scientific Revolutions by Thomas Kuhn, such good speeches, we’re destroying the planet, the earth’s going to be fine, we’ll be dead, don’t overstate it, weird mental trap, be precise, it hurts for a while, moving the needle, referencing earlier work, I was not a paleontologist in the early 90s and the 80s, middle school, a position being argued for, doing research, a lot like Carl Sagan, a science popularize, the book holds up, the CD-Roms, the kray supercomputers, super-secret navy lab, it has 300kb of memory!, nobody has 3 krays, $80 on ebay now, Malcolm in the book, complex systems are subject to chaos theory, he’s a Cassandra, we do build zoos, see I was right, as a narrative thing, to be charitable, able to interview Ian Malcolm, the first zoos were not very good, video reconstruction based on photographs, a scale flying machine before the Wright Brothers, flying machines, figuring out control surfaces, excited about airplanes, go to the airshow, Steven F. Udvar-Hazy Center, Dulles, a space shuttle, an SR-71, downtown D.C., why aircraft are so important, a peak of technologies in a physical space, see and understand and climb into, smaller and smaller, difficult to appreciate, bi plane vs. monoplane and tri-plane, let’s do 4, tri-plane was peak for a while, the shape was more important than the number, by the middle of the 30s nobody’s doing biplanes anymore, this seems to work, the end of the book, cleaning up the details, only eating the things that are high in, catchphrase, ‘they’re turning the frogs gay’, read a lot of stuff, Alex Jones, very defensible, Plato, really wide, crazy voice, he’s a doctor, they read the same stuff, used the word gay?, the tweak on the quote, a really good book, based on science, high concept, describe what the book is about, characters being characters, Snakes On A Plane, Sharknado, best elevator pitch: Jurrasic Shark, The Meg (2018), the action of this book is a lot like Aliens (1986), Alien Earth, monsters get out, all deadly, feed you to their babies, Hobo With A Shotgun, Grindhouse, the Fu-Manchu one, sign me up, covers of books are like that, boob armour, the Beverly Hillbillies, Gilligan’s Island, the premise of the show, a sea-shanty, he’s excellent at this, the book is really good, he’s less good at people than he is a really good stories, Eaters Of The Dead, accessible content, explicitly Beowulf, the other is crazy, sort of a character, an arrogant asshole, the kids are the kids, the scientists are interchangeable, Sam Neil, by picking actors who look like something, what he’s seeing, Ian Malcolm is in the book as a real character, the kid actors, concertizing, relationships and interests, hacker girls 11 years old, very draggy section of the book, chock full for charts and illustrations, the menus of the computer, menu screen after menu screen, how to reboot, skim over it, as a blueprint, the film succeeds in the way that the book can’t, the demon of success, the audience demands other stuff, read The White Company, we must have more Jurassic Park, the curse of success, I just can’t finish the last book, sequelitis, marketing, ranking it in the Crichton books, better than Timeline, the drop in the quality of the writing, he’s getting fettered, a paperback market, he’s not doing the Michael Crichton thing, Disclosure, a legal thriller, the technothriller, Prey, taller and narrower, a babboon or a monkey running a barcode, patentable, life finds a way, the distillation, right to repair, in normyville, aircraft parts, legally impossible to fix their aircraft, extraction stuff, go back to physical media, massive files, 10tb movies, you can do it, going back to physical media, back to horse and buggy, especially on twitter, owning their own copy of a thing, you want your own copy, a big paperback guy, digital, search it, takes up no space, another copy at home, a book server, audiobooks and ebooks in one app, update the language to be more inclusive, like they’re behind, excited about amphibians, a business that’s self-sustaining, follow your interest, getting into rye, fertilized the pig pen, not really into grain myself, that lack of interest by most people means they’re behind the times, find a way to get a computer in the house, I want my own modem, mom, the 14.4 for my 286sx, I’ve heard good things about the internet, cultural lag, subject to forces of control, it’s a prison break, life is a prison break, it’s always been a prison break, ceolcanth is really important, what’s going on in evolution, what normies are doing, playing phone games, tic tock, scrolling vertical video, “brain rot”, Moonraker by Ian Fleming, watchable, Tex Avery, Bugs Bunny style scene, he’s on the last leg, Roger Moore touching a lady’s leg, they fight, Jaws appears out of nowhere, never see the stewardess again, the implication is…, he and another Bond girl, giving the captor the eyes, a wink, which sexy person tied up on the table, funny thing underneath, Hugo Drax is named after Lord Dunsany’s younger brother, Hugo Boss, funny uniforms, Lord Plunkett, big long names, Ian Fleming knew the younger brother who was in the navy, a weird connection, a small world in that class of people, lords and second sons in the UK, they all know each other, why Roger Moore movies are fun and funny, the laser fights, every scene is payoff after payoff, as close to Bugs Bunny and Elmer Fudd as you can get, delightful, they’re just horrible, he’s cool lookin, the cars are cool lookin, there’s no humour, there’s no fun, darker as they go, good action movies, good Bond movies, fairly dark, Casino Royale, so bleak, mommy issues with M, he’s a servant, darker earlier James Bond movies, On Her Majesty’s Secret Service, Diana Rigg at her Riggiest, good to go to the source, almost all of them are Canadian public domain, did somebody fake-up a new James Bond thing?, anti-MSM, that’s a sentence, an anti-trans diatribe, Bond was struck by something, not even a pretense of diversity here, Athelstain, women or non-white or disabled, he was king, so fuckin unbelievable, a human, artificial intelligence is mostly bio, people operating on automatic, some human signed off on it, some estate said this is James Bond suitable material, people want to adapt these things for a different audience, expand the audience, Hunger Games books, teenage girls and people who used to be teenage girls, a boy fashion show, a frequent complaint about many things, they don’t care, PBS guy Charlie Rose, the sequel, he knew he had a big audience of children, he had an agenda, compatible, inevitable interest, a challenge, not mentioned is the big piles of cash, rationalizing it, a sequel is very hard to do, more of the same, too different, the problem, the goodreads ratings are all 3.6 except when it is a series, 6 books into the series, the hardcore fans, the declining number of readers, do not finish, do not rate, a crazy feedback loop, more of the same, The Lord Of The Rings, way off topic, gave up, the story had ended, much more like Sherlock Holmes, this high concept, Snakes On A Plane 2?, Samuel Jackson, one of the coders, Arnold, nameless secondary characters, evacuate the island, random nameless staff, storm coming, core group, random security guards, the chef, killed in the lodge, a security guards desk, is there a body there?, dead people, killed, splatted, eaten, death count goes way down in the movie, a little ride at the beginning, the hero characters, Sattler and Grant, an item, a very good movie move, subverted in the book, he doesn’t like kids, spends a bunch of times with the kids, she’s my grad student, he’s a widower, obsessed with one thing, live out in the badlands of Utah, if he had grown up and joined the military, work for great ideas, a lot of fun stuff, Binary, about psychology, parallel characters, the baddie the goodie, mirror images, a binary gas, mix two liquids on the plane, late 60s novel, early 70s movie, the book cooks, a naked lady on the cover, not a lady in the book, raw psychological paperback mindset, 400 pages exactly, all of yesterday, all week, Robert E. Howard and Hugh B. Cave, The Cult Of The White Ape, see you on the internet.

Posted by Jesse Willis

The SFFaudio Podcast #898 – READALONG: All Flesh is Grass by Clifford D. Simak

The SFFaudio Podcast #898 – Jesse and Scott talk about All Flesh is Grass by Clifford D. Simak

Talked about on today’s show:
1965, the point in his career, without serial in magazines, what’s happening after 1958, distribution is just awful, Galaxy, Astounding/Analog, F&SF, magazine sales, hardcover 1st, Doubleday, purple covers, it’s ok, mid 60, psychedelic covers, horrible, Foss cover?, spaceship with blowout, a science fiction book, flowers and faces, rocketship = science fiction, dragon = fantasy, good cover or not, where we start, what’s the cover look like, favourite, love this book, a fan, one of his best ones, the suspicion of the main character, suspicion of the flowers, he/it/they be, is it justified?, Simak’s behind it all, trust Simak, aggressively hostile at times, talking to the politicians, personal suspicion, harsh circumstances, losing his business, can’t pay his phone bill, unsettling, am I losing my mind or not?, very Philip K. Dicky, guy standing in his garden talking to his tree, We Can Remember It For You Wholesale, a delusional homeless man, careful framing, trying to go for an effect, clunky careful framing, this is just a crazy man, all he has to do to be a secret hero of earth, a solipsistic power fantasy of a child, reinforce that, drinking himself to death, Tupper, autistic?, something wrong with him, the primary source of contact until the phones get going, until the barrier shows up, backstory, setting up the scenario, particular distress, it’s cool, so many Simaks, Dick is similar or vice versa, he really cooks with short stories, that old Del Rey paperback, to read Simak is to read science fiction, kinda true, you think of space, other alien planets, are they really other planets?, what recurrs in his books, humanity is screwing up badly, there’s a way out, a friend named Gavin, the solutions he always gives are fantastical, to the point of destruction, a science fiction trope, 2001: A Space Odyssey, the one with Gort [The Day The Earth Stood Still], we will destroy you, Simak was already on it in 1965, gotten into scraps, town asshole, a pretty brutal fight, blood, the girl runs off, periods of things like that, lash out, a surprise, dogs fight, turning on each other, snarling down on the ground, a real town, Millville, population 127, the town is disappearing, instead of Ray Bradbury nostalgia, I’m still here, world wars, humanity as a species, we are bad because we did nukes, those rockets have yet to go off, putting this collective guilt on us as individuals not to do war, follow orders, like we’re the bad ones as a collection, Bradford or Brad, humanity itself is worth saving, not a Malthusian you fuckers have to stop breeding, Ring Around The Sun, empty and beautiful, mobs, a newspaperman, hip deep in that, he’s seeing everything, the plant is closing, this is key to understanding, look at the news and process it everyday, local news, see the trends happening, the tv says there’s going to be good weather next week, the current state of humanity, WWII, throes of Vietnam, greed, corporations, extremely pessimistic about humanity, an optimism about what humanity can be, on the whole humans good, extreme ideas, the knowledge of the universe, this incredible knowledge, tap that, solve these problems in ourselves, recurring stuff, that optimism, laying down some goodness, the interaction with the flowers, he does talk to an elm tree, through the telephone, in his best novel, Galactic Pot-Healer, talk to Mr. Job, an ai that put you out of work, go to Cleveland, radio broadcasts, look in your toilet tank, doesn’t like being mentally ill, you are needed for a great project, a return to a belief into something bigger than yourself, raising the sunken cathedral, find a purpose, a novel of a romantic poem, the romantic poets, I Wandered Lonely as a Cloud by William Wordsworth, continuous as the stars that shine, along the margin of a bay, they outdid the sparkly waves, a jocund company, the blissful solitude, no alien intelligence inside these daffodils, how’s he gonna resolve this book?, what if we’re cut off from this possibility, the other species can cure humanity of its ills, they aren’t just healing us, they’re replacing the broken things in us, witch-doctor, penicillin, an alien economy, the way the romantics work, you go for a walk, the birds of the air, the grass, the trees, then you go home and you write it down, an experience of nature, a nature walk transformed into a piece of art, aliens who want to contact humanity, a solution, they need our love, they need us to appreciate them, an olive branch, the flowers say, we need living space, we have no hands, for the benefit of each of us, many earths, a common aim and purpose, that’s heavy, that’s the threat, suspicious of corporations, Monsanto says, they’re resistant to this, the terminator gene, making ip laws on nature, when Simak posits some aliens, can’t we just trust them, he is the god of the book, this god is good, malevolent aliens, if Lovecraft wrote this book, Mars is a dead world, never been any evil acts done on Mars, a kindly touch, some encouraging words, that’s a sterileness, uplifted, in a quest to enjoy symbiosis with other minds, first contact, we meet aliens and we become friends, a flower garden, cherry blossoms, blackberry blossoms, we need a closer relationship based on me eating part of you, what those bones were, they wiped themselves out, never developed properly, delivered to his plate, the money being grown by the flowers, not real money, what makes it not real?, it hasn’t been officially blessed, cynical and looking for trouble, a communist!, even they’ve got a program in Mississippi, how important money is to us, if each of those bills had a new serial number, it’s above our pay grade, be able to spend it, break the system, some flaws with the book, the dome, Under The Dome, definitely came from this, aliens again, playing a game, adolescent, he fails on his endings a lot, what it did to that small town, The Tommyknockers, The Mist, the scene in the grocery store, we gotta sacrifice one of us, I should sacrifice myself, the homeless guy rushes in, back to his father, looms over the book, the original sin, cultivated and cared about them, a repayment, an investment, a very weird book, it takes the sentiment and thought behind romantic poetry and turns it into a science fiction novel, the barrier proves this guy’s not crazy, to prove existence, pass in between, permission somehow, there’s something there, create the crisis and the proof, if this were a Philip K. Dick novel, calm down bro, running around town, an invasion like Invasion Of The Body Snatchers, the horror of mental illness, thinking people are demons, a man in crisis, good hints, what’s she gonna do, all the great people who came out of this town, self-insert, a business guy, not super-imaginative, straight laced mind, a means to fund other projects, set aside some of this money selling gadgets, write cheques, really cool, a collection The Gentle Invaders, The Midwich Cuckoos, the barrier, a whole town in put to sleep, 9 months later all the women are pregnant, still rape, a new hybrid human alien species, too gentle to make the aliens malevolent, Leigh Brackett, Fritz Leiber, Mack Reynolds, 1969, Hans Stefan Santesson, editor of Fantastic Universe, Edward D. Hoch, 60 cents, Fantasy & Science Fiction, March 1966, Judith Merrill’s review, long winded, right after Earth Abides, John Christopher, personal nomination, conformity vs. individualism, some zombies too, no hasty conclusions, solid speculative content, oxymorons, meaningful and eminently readable, our protagonist is an individuals, mobs, rumor vs. fact, there will be peace, we will be nuked, panic, she’s bringing her own stuff to it, him vs. the government, some bigshot through the dome, NPCs, quite well realized, the father of the girlfriend, knows himself, this is your money, here have a drink, self-concious of his own limitations, a history of all the people in this town who are making a big impact in the world, they’re all inspired by the flowers, no?, a walk in the woods, lovely daffodils, a spring in your step, the beauty of the nature, a Doc Labyrinth story, shoes that come to life, a living thing, zany guy’s house, latest invention, The Preserving Machine, allow beauty to survive nuclear war, transformed into a living creature, lay eggs or gestate, life persists even in the face of disaster, these plants preserve knowledge and truth in themselves and want to share it, the animals that come out are reflections of what Philip K. Dick thinks of the chamber musicians, deadly serious, plant life is the thing I’m talking about, jokes about my favourite musicians, this field of flowers is beautiful, cultivate your own garden, write a poem, maybe someone will like, a rifle and a tower, kill all the politicians who want to make war, get better soil, love it, very biblical too, these are not even a monocrop, they can be sticks or vegetables, fruit, how amazing fruit is, eat me, take me, get my seeds elsewhere, this deliciousness serves us both, our relationship to animals, chickens, beef, get upset, how can you eat that thing, a creature, ready to be harvested, what they’re there for, this planet must be sterile, only because it can feel pain, our relationship and its relationship with us, the whole animal business, a lot more nightmarish, the John Wyndham line, the humanity, cause war, I’m cool the way I am, a good book, a line in here, they need us, use their knowledge, make it meaningful, take on meaningful, a computer database that’s no one using, the big PDF page, to read an appreciate, to turn into audiobooks, the cost is your time and clicking on it, self-aggrandize, treasure must be appreciated, not forcing your hand, crappy stories too, not trying to curate, this is exciting, make it more available, it would be bad if nobody ever appreciate it, building a library and nobody comes, adds meaning when people use it, a beautiful sunrise, a beautiful starry night, it needs to be percieved to have its full flower, never been an evil act on mars, nobody tortured on Venus, no genocide on the Moon, a really satisfying chocolate bar or what have you, thumbs up!, really happy with him, more than half-way through, the repeated theme, industry is disrupted or be disrupted by new technology that makes everything free, The Visitors, free car, free house, forever car, forever house, all super-cheap, gadgets, little things that can be made in that small town factory, outside factory in the next dot over in the endless, The Fisherman aka Time Is The Simplest Thing, the impact of technology on people, how can I make my life more like that, mow more lawns, get more cash, give money to this hospital, some scam, when a corporation is trying to get me to give money to a charity that’s some scam, we have to do something, go for a walk, be kind to your neighbors, don’t give into the idea that you are guilty of what your government does, Heinlein being in favour of the Vietnam War, I’m in favour of good things and not bad things, thinking about the people around me, think locally, notice the effect of the global effect, you have to be nice to Tupper, he lies to the mom, the bum who’s always scrounging for money, intimately invovled, a very subversive sort of take, eccentrics in a small community are worthy of attention and not being dismissive, where the bum lives, drinks himself to death, a fellow human, he’s asking, something there, gotta do some more Simak methinks, on the other hand, a PDF that eventuially got turned into an audiobook, Hellflower by George O. Smith, a short novel, the cover has a lady, a space surfer on the skids, an alien chemistry of unstoppable evil, the flowers are bad, a star master, soul shattering ruin, the one unparonable error, he didn’t die, bog on Venus, the cool gleaming sea of deep space, the vilest parasite in the universe, peddler of a poison, plants bad book, plants good book, fun, before we do another palate cleanser, a good narrator, 160 pages, nice and short, Saturday May 30, nice short book, Hellflower!, some Virgil Finlay, quite pretty, considering reading, not public domain, 3 pages, pretty cute, from the same magazine, Startling Stories, Take A Seat by Eric Frank Russell, I am got through, much luck, psycheport machine, tremendous, something knows, must slither like mad, might never find again, I am excitement, his thing, it call strong, get self sender activated, deep and dark, never done before, foice-sensor, counterswing circuit work, is mighty brilliance, streakiness, of what I do not know, not like mine, nothing but dark, am slow and careful, hearers on top, only two hearers, true mind cry behind noises, much poor, one this side one that, feets, what fore these bits, no fouice sensor, many hard bits in body, other think, it want to keep it maybe, Jelap, everlasting in dark, it know smell, other thing, as for reptiles, smell only olfactory spray, if eater is much small, have thing in it, flat soft, not dexterous extensibles, come cold and round, try to move feets, suddenly I find eyes, seek sensors, much poor only two, maybe eyes discarded, am fool, eyes have soft covers, blingbirds, much laughing for relief, there is four things, have wearings over bodies, shiny bag, two stiff tentacles, white and soft like bark bugs, mind call, much gentle, none receive, no controls, I am seated, sound noise, controls might injure, they make noise with eater, force wind, sloppy gargle, odd one with bag, very white, make think they see me inside, hold himself much white, he help it up when other arrive, enormous strain to reach me, is foolish not to tell, involuntary, shift feets a bit, show psycheport, shift feets, they much stupid, with eaters, one odd comes close, looks inside, middle cold thing I felt before, how can I make noise deep inside, do not like me, put wet on it, touch this, that, they is finish, much white, clamour in distance, stiff tentacle, light go much low, elctron fluid through me, they deading me, an alien sense its way through something, the alien has transferred consciousness to a human, the alien is in the human’s body, the wife or the husband, I am Jelap, I am the guy who’s not here, an electric chair, wanted to not be there, reached out into the universe, experiments on an alien planet, the dying or just shocked body, wild, the key for me, this is horrible, odd one comes close, is he alive?, middle cold thing, stethoscope, cannot hear me inside, trapped in this body, a couple of Lovecraft stories, Beyond The Wall Of Sleep by H.P. Lovecraft, The Shadow Out Of Time, travels the world, steward and caretaker, 30 years older, finishing the lecture, they regress him, vegetable people, they’re explorers from Earth’s early history, transferring their consciousness, plant monsters, cute, a good one for Reading, Short And Deep, a great story, class in five minutes, date not set yet, bringing Rose with her?, so little of her husband, a little bit of email, a computer thing, a major computer guy, switching jobs, take care.

Posted by Jesse Willis

The SFFaudio Podcast #895 – READALONG: Timeline by Michael Crichton

Jesse and Alex (Pulpcovers) talk about Timeline by Michael Crichton

Talked about on today’s show:
1999 novel, a very chonky book, 464 pages, Congo?, this genre of Crichton, John Lange, a lot of success, Stephen King syndrome, a writing machine, weird psychological stuff, powerful books, drinking, cocaine, a stern talking to, a post-Jurassic Park book, went forward, The Andromeda Strain, a great novel and a very good movie, Eaters Of The Dead, A Knight’s Tale, electric guitar jousting, they look pretty similar, pale versions of Neo from The Matrix, remember it fondly, rock music, condensed it in many ways, 36 hours, cut out a lot, weird changes, trivia wise, the movie that broke Michael Crichton, rolling over for every Jurassic World movie, Jesse doesn’t believe in spoilers, making the French the good guys, Lady Claire, less of a complete shitbag, you’re the special one that I love, she sleeps with the abbot, apparently that works out, a woman worth abandoning your timeline for, projecting, a very Michael Crichton, the protagonist of the fictional text woven into the Lucasarts Tie Fighter game, X-Wing, collector’s manual, in my bedroom, study up, Star Wars novel, secret conspiracy with the emperor, Crichton’s brain, the Elephant, Joseph Merrick, the most cool things, too many characters, some other handsome guys, villainous guys, a Scottish guy, a good cast, the girl, looks sweaty, rock climbing, caving, a big unweildly book, really cool stuff in it, Cricthon’s outsider science fiction status, Asimov of H.G. Wells, King Solomon’s Mines, War Of The Worlds, The Terminal Experiment Man, Frankenstein, A Connecticut Yankee In King Arthur’s Court, literally starts the same, suddenly a knight charged at me with a lance, that’s not a science fiction novel, getting the facts right, mythological space, tons of fuckin research, the 100 years war, necessary for Crichton, just French and English, a few subtitles, wave away the language problem, really good excuse, suddenly communicate, Occitan, prot-southern French, standardized post-Napoleon, regional thing, more confederated, the official French dictionary, Quebec, lots and lots of castles, a lot of renactors, French speakers, woodsy Canadian, Eaters Of The Dead, armour looked pretty good, all fine, Castlegar, two houses somewhere, a real budget, the script, why movies work (popular or not), viking barbarian land, a smaller scale setting, dozens, one magnetic character, Paul Walker, fun to watch, part 10 or whatever, so American it’s shocking, Billy Connolly, the most California guy to ever live, so blank, not designed to be a movie, a treatment for a film, a bastard sword, so many things going on in it, 7 characters?, trying to do a lot, the whole universe explanation for it, this mystery, the guy in the desert, never explain, yes they don’t, the flaw that they missed, what’s wrong with the book, it’s a criticism of the new tech bros that are comin, the Elon Musks, as opposed to governments, zany experimenters, all corporate now, corporate criticism, he’s like the facebook guy, he’s like a Zuckerberg, they want to kill him, the book feels colder, the evil megacorporation, definitely a jerk, master race, not yet, in that direction, hints at some of that, we’re gonna have to kill you now, why does he do that, prevent a pr disaster, we need him to die, it gives us catharsis, the catharsis for the film, like Gomez, immediately beheaded, bubonic plague, loves history, science, medicine, combines all of these things together, Travels, astral projection, he’s not a druggie, breathing exercises, accessing inaccessible parts of experience, weird tricks, weird weird guy that’s supersmart and now dead, Arizona, France, Eruption, Vulcan, marketing at train stations and airports, all Dean Koontz titles are like this, all the same, you have to make it dumber, a Star Trek book, we have to fix it, this concept, instead of doing as a playful satire, quantum shit, it’s not novel, he’s doing that sort of work, not basing it on the golden age 50s stuff, he seems to have no interest in it, not everything that Wells wrote was science fiction, creating it independently, hit the same checkpoints, checkboxes, this mode of science fiction, infodumping, Jesse loves Ringworld, flicked into existence, the same idea, talking to an alien, big dumb object, all about sex, a sex companion, Teela Brown, Nessus gay sex?, Speaker, females are non-sentient, weird drives, very silly, the human characters, Merrick, the only intriguing character in the book, screen time, that’s what’s wrong with the book, cool ideas, well developed, stuff happening, when you go back in time, a first person one guy story, here’s my story, sidetracks himself, a double text, interspersed, thins was bullshit, we can become annoyed and like that annoyance, the found document with a frame narrative, you gotta get them out of your system, everything worked that day, not every souffle, different ingredients every time, don’t change a thing, keep experimenting, more of that, what most readers want, give it to me again just like you gave it to me before, BBC piece from the 70s or 60s, 38 women live in this council house and all begin their day by shaving, down to a formula, that little doc, how poor these authors are, ladies go to the library and borrow the books, the dustman, the library’s fault, disposable books, more different, stretch you legs, good ideas and a noble failure, all the action, none of them are essential, not core, better Crichton books out there, way better, lost city in the jungle adventure, dropping people in the middle ages, too much flashing back to the company in the desert, no fucking idea how their technology works, how any of this works, shooting in the dark, you don’t know how any of this works, that’s all cool, drop it for the movie, one place and time, too much time back in the office, stuff’s happening, escaping across the rafters, each of the modern characters, important later, she was brought in to clamber over the ruins, practice our longbow skills, a good setup, it doesn’t gel, fine but forgetable, a fun character, a terrible person, the scene with the abbott, a surprise, she’s the one that comes out, not a faker, the opposite of Crichton is L. Ron Hubbard, a writing machine, gimme a picture I’ll write to that, John W. Campbell, things that he’s gonna be writing about, the sci-fi magic wand, completely accurate, Harry Stubbs, Hal Clement, Jerry Pournelle, what if there was a world that had this gravity, Mission Of Gravity, heavy gravity planet, shaped like centipedes, how would your existence be shaped, Flatland, essay?, text, going with an idea, competent characterization, infodump is important, a 15 hour book, about to do the time travel now, quantum foamy book for the first five hours, understanding what the concepts are, the transcription errors, why the badguy can’t get home, bones are misaligned, his arteries don’t line up, go to see the cat, body horror, nose tissue, a third eye, much better handled, the reveal, touched on twice, mishandled, maybe there’s a third guy from the past, no hint, hey pal, a real plot point, the facial scar, a transcription error, a very cool idea, you could do the story without it, makes the book bigger, more interesting, we’re destroying these people, very calm about everything, the tech guy, he’s Crichton, helping us along, how and why things are happening, will the glue hold, what about these water cracks, a pistol?, so the equipment can be destroyed, feels like a puzzle, mashing pieces together to make it fit, it has transcription errors, the book is flawed, it has a schism, the bad guy, Dekker made French, their version of the story, a year earlier, repair the damage, a lot of speeches given, trying hard to do a good book, it just didn’t really land, cool ideas in it, Sphere as an abridged audiobook, reset the timeline so none of the book happens, when did it start going wrong?, intermixed, they’re Epstein people, asshole fuckheads full of arrogance, the experience is bad, raw and talented, super into literature, all classical, ancient scientists, enlightenment era scientists, the list, Jurassic Park, is it good? a great movie, a very good book, the sequel, as a book is really good, 1990, a big gap, 1966, how early he started, late 80s early 90s kind of guy, 1976, The Great Train Robbery, his 1970 novel Drug Of Choice aka Overkill, fake vacations, real vacations, scuba diving, but why?, he likes scuba diving, almost died scuba diving one time, an incredible urge to have sex, he would write it, your sister might read the book, an interesting phenomenon, it’s about interesting phenomenon, flaky new age guy, best explain them, salacious details, living with a girl on the beach, fourth breakup, reset, really strange experience where the cactus was talking to me, evil corporation, giving them diets, fat reduction, Ozempic, helps you stop smoking too, the addiction of eating, the pleasure response of food, the circumstances you’re in are wonderful, everything is wonderful, under a hypnotic state under the drug, really bad food, you fall down, you got that in a tennis match, anything you’re suggested becomes your experience, We Can Remember It For You Wholesale, the vacation is in realtime, that would be a way better movie than this, double framing, why is there pain involved?, because film, grimacing into a windmachine, you’re being destroyed, they don’t destroy them in the movie, it’s not even a science fiction movie because they just don’t care, why he didn’t like it, Coma by Robin Cook, organ harvesting, a conspiracy thriller from the 70s, Robert Wise did The Andromeda Strain, John McTiernan, a lot shorter, what went wrong?, a book that works, Rising Sun, weird relationship in the 80s with Japan, their population, all of that came to nothing, a love and fascination and a hate and a fear, not that important, Canada, not super important, they’re treating it like England, except culturally, samurai movies, cars, an economic fear, trends continuing on, Japan will own everything, a samurai comes in to fight RoboCop, that fits the trend, a lot sexier, a high school kid, nostalgic for things that happened before I’m born, adventure stories, an evil corporation, murder prostitutes, weird Japanese sex fetishes, sexual harassment in the workplace, we talked about Airframe, only the Crichtony bits, corporate espionage, expecting it, I know how this is going to go, he’s losing it there, Pirate Latitudes, why wasn’t it published?, whatever happened to him went wrong, State Of Fear, people around the world, still afraid of climate change the way they were programmed to be, the biggest climate change disaster in human history, they don’t actually care, why are we pretending to care, people hate that book, go to Bluesky, a hate for Michael Crichton, what that argument might be, worked in a library, service hours for something, the item list, somebody has to go find that book on the shelf, once a week, 90 books that have been requested, the Dewey decimal system, so many interesting books, a half dozen books, read a lot, in that period, not Prey, 2002, he got mad about climate change, allow him to rant about it, him wanting a forum, if he had a blog, contracted to write a novel, Next, genetic engineering book, horrible oversized paperback, narrower and taller, Dragon Teeth, Micro, Richard Preston, A Murder In Hollywood, an excerpt from Scratch One, Stag Annual, spy book, Grand Prix, Monaco, James Bondy, except for that one, Easy Go, the Egyptian one, Binary, Man’s World, December 1970, the death divers, Pollen or somebody, Norem, somethin to see, how to decide, dinosaur fossil hunting in the old west, other people’s hands on it, it should be good, even him touching stuff, a few left to read, a really good movie, that happens a lot, 3.5 quarters, it didn’t improve the experience of either, very-mid, definitely a movie, technically a film, it’s not awful, they tried, perfectly fine, it doesn’t hold together, he didn’t get to use Sean Connery again, experienced Sean Connery, he directed a movie, it could have been a novel, Looker (1981), Runaway with Tom Selleck, Physical Evidence (1989) starring Burt Reynolds, Theresa Russel, Ned Beatty, well executed, extremely a heist movie, the sexual jokes, very 70s, Donald Sutherland is great in that movie, nobody talks about Looker, Albert Finney, James Coburn, Susan Dey, a scanning machine, 3d models, 3d actors, tastefully #StrategicPlacement, the transcription error, a portable version of this, a hand scanner, 3d printing now, very awesome cool technology, without their consent, a hypnotic effect, plastic surgeon, reusing that idea, that’d be a fuckin awesome book, a book about a theme park, deep dark May, some kind of a trip, in-laws in Arkansas, Virginia, that’s what I got a wife for, absolutely true, they know when anniversaries are, birthdays, caring about that stuff, important for social relations, I need to send the book out on time, The Great Impersonation, how awesome it is to have so many good Simak novels still to read, a writer passed his prime, a Wizard of Oz setup, the past, another dimension, The Visitors, giant big black slabs show up in the sky, 2001: Monoliths, small town Minnesota, they start eating the trees, the cellulose like poor, food for their babies, eating cars, then found in fields, new cars that never break down, ingest a person, some houses, free houses, all built in somehow, magic, not supposed to be magic, high tech, aliens, the final scene, newspaper editor hero, what should be published about what’s going on with these alien visitors, a house out in the woods, shadows inside, people inside, part of the aliens, super suggestive, early 80s, Ring Around The Sun, free homes, super-cheap, the forever car, economic disruption in the United States, a threat in the 50s, by the 80s, Japanese cars, the 70s in fact, super-sensitive, rural America, an experience about human relations, so valuable, oh boy I get another Simak, disturbed, food for thought, Hard Case Crime, they definitely exist, Blackstone just republished them with terrible covers, one of them’s a recycled, next week.

Posted by Jesse Willis