The SFFaudio Podcast #904 – The Grisly Horror aka Moon Of Zambebwei by Robert E. Howard (1 hour 6 minutes) read by Ben Tucker for LibriVox, followed by a discussion of it. Participants in the discussion are Jesse AND Alex (Pulpcovers)
Talked about on today’s show:
Zimbebwei, tells you nothing, spelled differently, a really place, making shit up?, a modern country, historical connection, tweaking it a little bit, seen most of it before, Bristol McGrath, El Borak with the serial, Richard Ballville, Dick Balls, English and Irish, American mutt, Constance Brand, Ethan Brand, De Alba, the quadroon, the fake arab, part african, so much backstory, each chapter is a couple of pages, mastered this knifestroke, hairy hillman, fewer than a dozen men, afghan knife, ran off to Africa, speaks perfect arabic, of course you recognize this symbol, living in a western city, California?, drowned his sorrows, heard the scream one time, Louisiana?, Pine Woods, Pigeons In The Dark, Black Cannan, The Valley Of The Spiders?, in Mongolia, a racial transformation, an white man becomes a very specific mongol, mentality and bodily transforming into Genghis Khan, doesn’t everybody like the white ladies, gorilla gods, a silver and grey gorilla from Africa, Congo, a throwback to when earth was experimenting, poor Thak, Zemba, every gorilla, calling a lion simba, just another zemba, why did any of this happen?, a secret prison, a secret combination lock, I didn’t want to use the whip on her, what a crazy story, how these things get constructed, Robert E. Howard cosplaying as a pirate, a series of scenes where he’s walking through the woods, a dead body, conked or drugs, tricks him twice, pulls his punches, of course I saw it coming, he got me anyway, the drugged whiskey, a series of scenes, a dead guy, a tortured guy, a dying guy, he’s doing it for money, stringing it for longer, might get me in the cover, the description, daughter in the car, read all of Conan, after he gets conked out in the cave, was that Robert E. Howard?, you can tell, three ladies in brass bras and two dudes in turbans, web of living death, almost everybody’s naked, just the headdress, naked in front of the gorilla god, parrot feathers and gorilla overcoats, super descriptive, vibe based descriptions, he doesn’t have to worry about any of the actual details, his fight scenes, it never works, this impression of what is supposed to be happening, into detail, the choke-out scene, he says the magic words, the red mist goes away, then he gets tricked again, awesomely cool, the mary sue for Howard, needs him to keep getting in trouble, an adaptation, set in Turan, their version of Iran, a swamp, the monkey men and the monkey god, gold monkey, falls into a swamp pit, implied, the ancient indians, who knows why, secret indian road megaliths, [Shadows In The Moonlight aka Iron Shadows In The Moon], recycling the same plots, the motive behind, the back catalogue of this podcast, from the guy’s wife, I’m gonna go marry your wife now, an inversion, there aren’t that many plots, friend/rival, girl love-triangle, backstory, krise, short academic paper on afghan knives, a guy who looks like The Shadow, a pesh-kabz, a cool looking knife, a long ape-like arm, focused not on the nudity but the violence, the inhuman rival and the human rival, what makes a man a man and not a monkey, a super-early story, The Last White Man, so ridiculous, earlier than Spear And Fang, things that freak people out, quadroons and niggers, the most racist period under Wilson, reforms after the Civil War, a little less racialized, coming out of that, he’s smart, working out the ideas in fiction, why everything’s so weird, civilization vs. barbarism, doesn’t fit in this, an autarch, let everything fall to ruin, ruined disaster falling apart around his ears, foreign, grew up in an arab household, becomes a wizard, I’m gonna be one of your priests now, stretchin it a bit there, another boxing story, Sailor Steve Costigan, those are good too, he’s playing to a different kind of strength, a boxer himself, writing for fight stories, an exhibitionism, an argument to be made, padded gloves, wrap your fists, a lot less violence, schoolyard and afterschool violence, cyberbulling, physical damage is avoidable (unless doing it to yourself), the writing is vivid no matter what he’s writing, his use of colour, voodoo, this isn’t voodoo, a comparatively young relgion, granite cliffs, a mewling infant, uncounted ages, it is poetry, they never say I love his poetry, he loved his poetry, those poems are written for him, poetry wasn’t just something you do in a final exam, a real piece of culture, the biblical Cain, tell the story from Cain’s point of view, amazing descriptions, what never gets tiresome is his description, an amazing spell he puts on you, that rhythm to it, that it is written by Robert E. Howard, that spark and depth of beauty, pick any random line, strange alien garb, turkish slippers, distinctly oriental, holding up a gun, sit at his feet and listen to the dialogue flow, pulls out the telegram, such a great mechanic, internal flashback, so good, he’s really good at what he does, scores left to kill you and her, wandered far, grew to manhood, the white blood in me, a mirror of our hero, whole novels about their backstories, the road is full of stumps and new growth, degenerated and morally degenerated, the Cthulhu cult in The Call Of Cthulhu, the white tree, over ranging the earth, similar to The Black Stone, more of this please, the love of poetry and demand for money, he clearly loved writing, workaday writing, he had to love these stories, he is having a lot of fun with these, for the photograph, stringing it together with plot, a storyteller’s mind, poetic language, such a rare combination, Roy Thomas changed it so much, no reason to change it, how many snake stories, The Scarlet Citadel, famous big snake, a Stygian snake, spiders, that’s not an afghan knife, mini-brass bra, proper colour, no pistol, he shoots him down, half-dead, 44, drugs, somehow imported all this to the United States, met in Vienna once, how are you in Vienna, took over all the blacks in town, weird voodoo, dumb plan, showed up with a killer monkey and a cult, the girl gets drugged, a sleepwalker, she was naked, walked like a robot, mechanically, the horror that squatted in the center of the glade, to be the gorilla’s god’s wife, the “bride”, Facts In The Case Of Arthur Jermyn And His Family, his grandmother in the box, she was half monkey, eat her?, rape her?, do miscegenation with her?, a girl in danger, mean things to her, the guy who faked her death earlier, these guys are all Robert E. Howard, two degenerate guys from landed estates after the Civil War, goes off to Africa to explore, Afghanistan to explore, Los Angeles to explore, the adventurer’s club, mount an expedition to the top of this volcano, dinosaurs or King Solomon’s Mines, never from the establishment’s point of view, roughneck, wealth is dissipated, hired by a professor or a wizard, that’s not how we act, right beside Brown, a letter to the local paper disputing an astrologer, how astronomy works, he had a regular column writing about astronomical matters, August is my preferred month, it passes through Virgo!, he’s thinking about that, astronomical matters, so good, the snippy people, People Of The Black Coast and Stragella, Hugh B. Cave, very popular at the time, outside of our weird pulp obsessed circle, alive a lot longer, people interested in reading books, you should definitely read Hugh B. Cave, 1910 to 2004, either of the Howards, issue of Weird Tales, an E. Phillips Oppenheim story, He by H.P. Lovecraft, the magazine is not as shitty in 1926, Ooze, the first cover story, Lovecraft writes a bunch of letters to Weird Tales, this is my aesthetic, very priggish, that’s when he got married, offered him [an] editorship, move to Chicago, handled being an editor, people on other podcasts, Clark Ashton Smith, Farnsworth Wright rejected the story, overwhelmed with stuff, fit certain lengths, editing is not a small job, resubmit the same story with minor changes, come at me right now I’m busy, fill certain slots, two page stories, poems, Weirdisms, a magazine is not a variable length, a certain exact length, “the signature”, each set of folds, this many exact sheets of paper, on a blog or a podcast it doesn’t matter, more key to understanding why something gets picked up, I have this budget too, this story is not ten times better than other rejected, better than Almuric, clearly someone considered it good, gorilla, cult, secret indian hideaway, drugged brandy, I got the gorilla to North America but I’m not going to tell you how, gorilla costumes past customs, a sacred totem of a murder cult, the blacks in the United States, American blacks converted to this religion, reverse colonialism, okay I’m writing a gorilla story, weird gorilla cult, off the rails, absolutely audacious, won’t say no to a challenge, gorillas are in this month (in fact every month), and another John Lange/Michael Crichton, only 4 and a half hours, legit or not.
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